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		<title>By: Gedaly</title>
		<link>http://www.bardblog.com/anti-semitic-shakespeare-makes-test-scores-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Gedaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s happened before but no story... what makes this incident so &#039;hot&#039;? Is it just because they didn&#039;t put their names on their paper? Or is the issue of anti-semitism just popular in the news right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s happened before but no story&#8230; what makes this incident so &#8216;hot&#8217;? Is it just because they didn&#8217;t put their names on their paper? Or is the issue of anti-semitism just popular in the news right now?</p>
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		<title>By: A.K.Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.bardblog.com/anti-semitic-shakespeare-makes-test-scores-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>A.K.Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very American perspectives on show!
Incidentally - the girls did badly because they didn&#039;t put their names on the paper, not because they didn&#039;t answer the question which is part of the test (so much for having the courage of their convictions).  In previous years a similar thing had happened but the girls had included their names - no story.
The school opted to be in the state system (for financial gain) a few years ago - it was a choice made to participate - obviously there is an element that would prefer not to take part.
As I&#039;ve said elsewhere - this is not he views of the girls - it is that of their adult minders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very American perspectives on show!<br />
Incidentally &#8211; the girls did badly because they didn&#8217;t put their names on the paper, not because they didn&#8217;t answer the question which is part of the test (so much for having the courage of their convictions).  In previous years a similar thing had happened but the girls had included their names &#8211; no story.<br />
The school opted to be in the state system (for financial gain) a few years ago &#8211; it was a choice made to participate &#8211; obviously there is an element that would prefer not to take part.<br />
As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere &#8211; this is not he views of the girls &#8211; it is that of their adult minders.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Thal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Thal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s also the same way that &lt;a href=&quot;http://shakespearence.blogspot.com/2008/02/sins-of-flesh.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Falstaff&#039;s weight&lt;/a&gt; was taken as a sign of his moral character. 

Still, Shakespeare&#039;s notion of skin color as moral failing made corporeal was something he articulated when he was drawing upon traditional theatrical and poetic conventions that came before him-- and he was quite willing to dispense with these conventions as the story or the poem demanded.  i.e. Ethiopia, or Moorishness, was sometimes an attempt at description, and other times a metaphor; rarely did they serve both purpose at once except in the rhetoric of a character like Iago, who was a liar.

And keep in mind that even Aaron the Moor, has some modicum of moral virtue that the other villains of &lt;i&gt;Titus Andronicus&lt;/i&gt; lack.

This is qualitatively different from the manner in which Jews and Judaism are treated in &lt;i&gt;The Merchant of Venice&lt;/i&gt;-- where the use of anti-Semitic stereotypes, and explicit portrayals of the humiliations that Jews endured under Christian rule are unambiguous.  We must also keep in mind that these are Jewish students in the United Kingdom, which in recent years has come to be perceived (rightly or wrongly) as an increasingly more anti-Semitic society, so while the students acts are misdirected, there is some underlying rationale to their protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s also the same way that <a href="http://shakespearence.blogspot.com/2008/02/sins-of-flesh.html" rel="nofollow">Falstaff&#8217;s weight</a> was taken as a sign of his moral character. </p>
<p>Still, Shakespeare&#8217;s notion of skin color as moral failing made corporeal was something he articulated when he was drawing upon traditional theatrical and poetic conventions that came before him&#8211; and he was quite willing to dispense with these conventions as the story or the poem demanded.  i.e. Ethiopia, or Moorishness, was sometimes an attempt at description, and other times a metaphor; rarely did they serve both purpose at once except in the rhetoric of a character like Iago, who was a liar.</p>
<p>And keep in mind that even Aaron the Moor, has some modicum of moral virtue that the other villains of <i>Titus Andronicus</i> lack.</p>
<p>This is qualitatively different from the manner in which Jews and Judaism are treated in <i>The Merchant of Venice</i>&#8211; where the use of anti-Semitic stereotypes, and explicit portrayals of the humiliations that Jews endured under Christian rule are unambiguous.  We must also keep in mind that these are Jewish students in the United Kingdom, which in recent years has come to be perceived (rightly or wrongly) as an increasingly more anti-Semitic society, so while the students acts are misdirected, there is some underlying rationale to their protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Gedaly</title>
		<link>http://www.bardblog.com/anti-semitic-shakespeare-makes-test-scores-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Gedaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Elizabethan times outward appearance was often a reflection of one&#039;s inside. One&#039;s &#039;Black&#039; soul was not a compliment. Aaron makes many references to the color of his skin and relates it to the purity of his intentions &quot;Aaron will have his soul black like his face.&quot; True, Aaron&#039;s villainy isn&#039;t presented as an attribute of his heritage as much by others as in &lt;em&gt;Merchant&lt;/em&gt;, but he does it for himself.

Likewise calling someone or soemthing &#039;Ethiope&#039; had negative connotation again in reference to the notion that darker skin was inferior. &quot;Such Ethiope words, blacker in their effect Than in their countenance.&quot; (As You Like It)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Elizabethan times outward appearance was often a reflection of one&#8217;s inside. One&#8217;s &#8216;Black&#8217; soul was not a compliment. Aaron makes many references to the color of his skin and relates it to the purity of his intentions &#8220;Aaron will have his soul black like his face.&#8221; True, Aaron&#8217;s villainy isn&#8217;t presented as an attribute of his heritage as much by others as in <em>Merchant</em>, but he does it for himself.</p>
<p>Likewise calling someone or soemthing &#8216;Ethiope&#8217; had negative connotation again in reference to the notion that darker skin was inferior. &#8220;Such Ethiope words, blacker in their effect Than in their countenance.&#8221; (As You Like It)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Thal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Thal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a very skilled director and cast to make a version of &lt;i&gt;The Merchant of Venice&lt;/i&gt; that doesn&#039;t come off as a piece of skillfull anti-Semitic propaganda, and if you are sensitive to those to comparisons between Jews and devils, the historical practice of forced conversions, abductions and conversions of Jewish children (a practice that continued into the 1940s), then it can be a very painful play to read-- even if you happen to love Shakespeare&#039;s work.

The young people may not be reacting in the best manner (adolescents are not particularly good at compartmentalizing their emotions), but they are certainly not making a mountain out of a molehill.

We should also point out that Shakespeare likely never met a Jew (they were forbidden to reside in England) and only knew of Jews from defamatory stories.

I&#039;m not certain how you jump to the claim that &quot;Shakespeare wasn’t too kind to blacks&quot;-- Aaron (a villain) from &lt;i&gt;Titus Andronicus&lt;/i&gt; and Othello (a tragic hero) were Moors (likely of Arab or Berber ancestry) so while dark by the standards of 15th century England, they were not &quot;black&quot; in the sense that we use the term today.  Even then, Aaron&#039;s villainry was never presented as an attribute of his racial heritage as Shylock&#039;s was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a very skilled director and cast to make a version of <i>The Merchant of Venice</i> that doesn&#8217;t come off as a piece of skillfull anti-Semitic propaganda, and if you are sensitive to those to comparisons between Jews and devils, the historical practice of forced conversions, abductions and conversions of Jewish children (a practice that continued into the 1940s), then it can be a very painful play to read&#8211; even if you happen to love Shakespeare&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>The young people may not be reacting in the best manner (adolescents are not particularly good at compartmentalizing their emotions), but they are certainly not making a mountain out of a molehill.</p>
<p>We should also point out that Shakespeare likely never met a Jew (they were forbidden to reside in England) and only knew of Jews from defamatory stories.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not certain how you jump to the claim that &#8220;Shakespeare wasn’t too kind to blacks&#8221;&#8211; Aaron (a villain) from <i>Titus Andronicus</i> and Othello (a tragic hero) were Moors (likely of Arab or Berber ancestry) so while dark by the standards of 15th century England, they were not &#8220;black&#8221; in the sense that we use the term today.  Even then, Aaron&#8217;s villainry was never presented as an attribute of his racial heritage as Shylock&#8217;s was.</p>
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